- make sensors as close to flush mount as we can, either recessed in wells or new sensors that are lower profile. want Ti top to be either flush or counter sunk in base
- make base diameter slightly larger than Ti top diameter, we don't need 1/2" overhang, want as small as can be
- relocate current LED/button panel so its not so large
- if model remains with button panel tab, make sure the curves joining it to main circle base are smoothed out.
Taylor Bernard on December 1, 2014:
if you could choose any design look, you still want to go with a 'base+top' config and not a floating base?
Justin Bernard on December 1, 2014:
possibly
give some quick mock up options before you detail them out, can decide from there
Justin Bernard on December 4, 2014:
pleeeeeeease quit emailing me files. put them on basecamp.
i think its nice and i think it plays off the level name well. you like? i also like that you beveled the top edge on top plate only
is the inset plate the same height as the top plate, it looks a little taller, id say make it all flush if its not
bring it into C4D and texture then. your call on colors/materials. i'm thinking white-ish, maybe something like glossy white top plate, bottom plate and top inset dull/textured/rubberized white? see what you think
Justin Bernard on December 4, 2014:
ps did you double check dimensions to make sure the electronics will all tuck in this?
be cool if the bottom plate just had 4 screw holes in it and you could just slide it off to access everything.
Taylor Bernard on December 4, 2014:
i sorta like it but i just dont think its very fluid. thats why i liked the circular design better. not to many square designs out there lately on kickstarter like this. i'd like to bring it away as far as possible from looking like a usual scale look (platter, ect)
i roughed dimensions but will check them. thickest part going in is .250 and then need to figure out something with the legs how to get them shorter
Justin Bernard on December 4, 2014:
round to me feels even more like a counter top scale for some reason
let me know if you think of another variation
one other option would be to slash cut 3 levels on the bottom right hand corner. so basically do what you did on the inset, but follow suit on the top and base plates as well. if you could still get the led's/button to fit
Taylor Bernard on December 4, 2014:
photoshop in what you mean by slash cut on the bottom 3 layers
Justin Bernard on December 4, 2014:
what you been working on since i posted that? hour delayz
i just meant to folow the same angle cut that you used on the inset piece, on the other 2 pieces, so that the entire corner is cut off. another option would be to put the inset angle cut on both sides, and then have controls on one, and on one have the angle cut follow through on the two other plates
Justin Bernard on December 4, 2014:
actually you know, i think its pretty solid. texture it
why can't we get away with using a single, multi color LED? everything need to display happens one signal at a time
lets model up a button as well in place so its 'final'. led as well. need a little imprint area for logo. super small., prob where the button cuttout kind of is
Justin Bernard on December 4, 2014:
why also why didnt you round out the slash cut on the inset plate. look bad?
and can you make it where the inset touches the top plate it rests in. teh way it looks , the inset is the scale. id rather the whole top be scale area, that way if object on top expanded past the inset area, it would work and not fail to descend, if that makes sense.
Taylor Bernard on December 4, 2014:
had to remodel that cut away and the top and forgot. just saw it before you posted that.
also can you make it so theres no gap between silver inset on top, so it looks pressed in?
Taylor Bernard on December 4, 2014:
on the button, theres a chance we can sense the capactive touch THROUGH the plastic, best way to test this is to find some thin thin plastic laying around, and put it over the existing device touch button and see if it registers when touched. but there cant be any air gap, may have to cut out a small piece with xacto or scissors and drop it on top. looking into the led....will have to be an 3 color SMD, i dont know if they make that, will find out.
yeh i can tighten up the gap, but left it that way to be easily visible. if i pull it in to much tighter, doing these isometric views its not going to be visible and look like its a painted on top vs floating.
Justin Bernard on December 4, 2014:
for now mock it up with just 2 led's, and put actual light in place, blue and org maybe. same on button, put something in there that resembled button so we can be 'done' with the pretty model, later on can figure out the technical model for printing
def tighten up that gap, from product design standpoint, its bad unless seamless, would fill up with junk and spilled stuff, impossible to wipe clean. want entire top to be smooth as can be, so that only real seam is between top and bottom plate halves
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Justin Bernard on December 1, 2014:
- make sensors as close to flush mount as we can, either recessed in wells or new sensors that are lower profile. want Ti top to be either flush or counter sunk in base
- make base diameter slightly larger than Ti top diameter, we don't need 1/2" overhang, want as small as can be
- relocate current LED/button panel so its not so large
- if model remains with button panel tab, make sure the curves joining it to main circle base are smoothed out.
Taylor Bernard on December 1, 2014:
Justin Bernard on December 1, 2014:
give some quick mock up options before you detail them out, can decide from there
Justin Bernard on December 4, 2014:
Justin Bernard on December 4, 2014:
Justin Bernard on December 4, 2014:
made some slight tweaks to the orig vector profile you diagramed below:
Justin Bernard on December 4, 2014:
inset top piece is flush mount, just a way to do different material/color, no/as little of groove on that seam as you can.
basically bottom plate is a little wider (extends in 5pm direction above)
and top plate is 2x longer than that offset, extending in 7pm direction.
Taylor Bernard on December 4, 2014:
Taylor Bernard on December 4, 2014:
Justin Bernard on December 4, 2014:
Taylor Bernard on December 4, 2014:
Justin Bernard on December 4, 2014:
is the inset plate the same height as the top plate, it looks a little taller, id say make it all flush if its not
bring it into C4D and texture then. your call on colors/materials. i'm thinking white-ish, maybe something like glossy white top plate, bottom plate and top inset dull/textured/rubberized white? see what you think
Justin Bernard on December 4, 2014:
ps did you double check dimensions to make sure the electronics will all tuck in this?
be cool if the bottom plate just had 4 screw holes in it and you could just slide it off to access everything.
Taylor Bernard on December 4, 2014:
not to many square designs out there lately on kickstarter like this. i'd like to bring it away as far as possible from looking like a usual scale look (platter, ect)
i roughed dimensions but will check them. thickest part going in is .250 and then need to figure out something with the legs how to get them shorter
Justin Bernard on December 4, 2014:
let me know if you think of another variation
one other option would be to slash cut 3 levels on the bottom right hand corner. so basically do what you did on the inset, but follow suit on the top and base plates as well. if you could still get the led's/button to fit
Taylor Bernard on December 4, 2014:
Justin Bernard on December 4, 2014:
i just meant to folow the same angle cut that you used on the inset piece, on the other 2 pieces, so that the entire corner is cut off. another option would be to put the inset angle cut on both sides, and then have controls on one, and on one have the angle cut follow through on the two other plates
Justin Bernard on December 4, 2014:
actually you know, i think its pretty solid. texture it
Taylor Bernard on December 4, 2014:
Taylor Bernard on December 4, 2014:
Justin Bernard on December 4, 2014:
why can't we get away with using a single, multi color LED? everything need to display happens one signal at a time
lets model up a button as well in place so its 'final'. led as well. need a little imprint area for logo. super small., prob where the button cuttout kind of is
Justin Bernard on December 4, 2014:
and can you make it where the inset touches the top plate it rests in. teh way it looks , the inset is the scale. id rather the whole top be scale area, that way if object on top expanded past the inset area, it would work and not fail to descend, if that makes sense.
Taylor Bernard on December 4, 2014:
Justin Bernard on December 4, 2014:
Taylor Bernard on December 4, 2014:
Justin Bernard on December 4, 2014:
also can you make it so theres no gap between silver inset on top, so it looks pressed in?
Taylor Bernard on December 4, 2014:
looking into the led....will have to be an 3 color SMD, i dont know if they make that, will find out.
yeh i can tighten up the gap, but left it that way to be easily visible. if i pull it in to much tighter, doing these isometric views its not going to be visible and look like its a painted on top vs floating.
Justin Bernard on December 4, 2014:
def tighten up that gap, from product design standpoint, its bad unless seamless, would fill up with junk and spilled stuff, impossible to wipe clean. want entire top to be smooth as can be, so that only real seam is between top and bottom plate halves
Taylor Bernard on December 5, 2014: